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The 45th or 46th U.S. President in 2020

The 45th or 46th U.S. President in 2020
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The 2020 U.S. Presidential race closes on election day Tuesday NOV3, 2020. The elected president becomes the 46th U.S. President if Trump does not win. State voters will select presidential electors who in turn elect a president and vice president through the electoral college.
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This proposition mimics the 2016 one by sandhog, which opened before major parties nominated final candiates, and closed shortly before election day.

Decision Logic

Final results with major media announcements of the winner. Without a consensus, such as with the 2000 recount that involved the U.S. Supreme Court, the outcome may be delayed until certain.

CLOSING IN2020-11-03 04:55:00

3:34PM, Feb 12, 2020 UTC

4:55AM, Nov 3, 2020 UTC

3:00AM, Nov 4, 2020 UTC

RESOLVED AT 4:56PM, Nov 7, 2020 UTC

Total Volume: 66.97

This bet has been resolved!

The outcome was "OTHER"

66.96795825 was split between 139 bettors.
TRUMP
Volume:37.73
444.80203707
# of Bets:93
SANDERS
Volume:0.1464
2.53802978
# of Bets:15
BUTTIGIEG
Volume:0.0209
0.361364
# of Bets:7
BLOOMBERG
Volume:0.0165
0.5324315
# of Bets:6
OTHER
Volume:29.05
310.15362056
# of Bets:139

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vegtru 1:54AM, Nov 20, 2020 UTC
Even after a state certifies, the Trump campaign can still submit their case. Even the certification can be challenged-- such as MI, where they were about to certify a vote that they admitted on zoom was only something like 70% accurate (and that their primary was less accurate). I feel like some of you really don't know the depths of the legal processes or the reality of what's happening. But that's okay-- there's a finite amount of time left for the process and we're all awaiting it together.
p60091 1:54AM, Nov 20, 2020 UTC
@vegtru You mean the where Giuliani is melting? They're just throwing the whole pot of pasta at the wall and seeing what sticks.
vegtru 1:48AM, Nov 20, 2020 UTC
@p60091 If you watched the press conf they had today, you'd find that they haven't submit all of their cases yet, and that only a handful have been submit officially from the Trump side. The rest are just being lumped as Trump suits by the media when they aren't. The only piece of truth in that article is the MI withdrawal which was due to them refusing to certify-- which was the point of the MI case. But I can understand why you fell for it.
p60091 1:32AM, Nov 20, 2020 UTC
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-campaign-1-29-post-election-lawsuits-after-latest-defeat-1548791
vegtru 9:04PM, Nov 19, 2020 UTC
@QWE Clearly you are ignorant, or purposefully ignorant about what's actually happening, and you are clearly trying to rush the bet while it's in your favor. I don't care who you voted for. The bet needs to be done properly. There is no reversal. You clearly don't know what you're talking about, about how betting works, or how the election works. If the states do not certify their votes, what happens? Do you know? Why don't you Google it. We're in for a long ride.
vegtru 8:59PM, Nov 19, 2020 UTC
@QWE I am following the news man. They just had a press conference about the cases they can talk about publicly. They said they're still collecting information to submit their official AZ cases. That's how it works. They have time to submit their cases. You and others are conflating 3rd party cases with Trump cases. Do you understand how court cases reach the Supreme Court? They have to go through the correct channels-- which is all still in progress. Trump's team paid 3M to have WI recount.
999 8:47PM, Nov 19, 2020 UTC
Thank you Betmoose for handling this correctly
999 8:41PM, Nov 19, 2020 UTC
Don't ask people what their bet was.
QWE 9:48AM, Nov 19, 2020 UTC
@vegtru you should stay on thedonald, where they don't allow actual updates of what's happening legally because it goes against their fantasies. Are you the one with 5BTC on Trump winning?
QWE 9:46AM, Nov 19, 2020 UTC
@vegtru you're still ignoring the decision logic of this vote. You're the one being dishonest. There's nothing pending at the Supreme Court, and I'm following many of the cases and none of the ones still pending will have any effect on vote totals except *maybe* to allow some *uncounted* votes to be counted (which are not enough to change any election). Only GA is recounting. Everything is random audits which is standard, and they're all coming back completely normal. You're actually delusional
p60091 12:25AM, Nov 19, 2020 UTC
@vegtru I didn't see anything about California where Biden won by more than 5 million votes. Lol, good luck with that one.
p60091 11:47PM, Nov 18, 2020 UTC
@vegtru his lawsuits are getting thrown out left and right. Such a waste of time. Arizona (4 cases): 1 dismissed by plaintiff, 1 dismissed, 2 pending. Georgia (3 cases): 1 dropped by plaintiff, , 1 dismissed, 1 pending. Michigan (5 cases): 1 dropped by plaintiff, 3 denied, 2 pending. Nevada (6 cases): 1 dismissed by trump camp, 1 denied, 4 pending. Wisconsin (1 case): 1 dropped by plaintiff, Pennsylvania (13 cases): 2 withdrawn by plaintiffs, 3 rejected, 6 pending, 1 upheld
vegtru 7:30PM, Nov 18, 2020 UTC
@QWE The bet was for "The 45th or 46th U.S. President in 2020". They even mentioned the Supreme Court, which is where this is going. There is a metric **** ton of litigation heading towards all of the states that magically stopped counting at the same time and found votes. AZ, NV, GA, PA, VA, MI, WI, even CA. I have a contact in Hawaii who said even they're recounting. While it might seem crazy to you to wait for the courts, that's how it works. You can be dishonest somewhere else @QWE .
QWE 4:35PM, Nov 18, 2020 UTC
@vegtru "Maybe don't bet on politics next time." Maybe put money on a bet that is determined by who is inaugurated rather than who has a media consensus. That was your mistake. There were plenty of other bets out there.
vegtru 10:13AM, Nov 18, 2020 UTC
@BananaNipples It's not humoring anything. This is waiting for the legal process to finish and complete. Just as GORE 2000 was referenced, this is the same scenario. Gore took 37 days to reverse, with only one state contested. We have many many states LEGALLY contested this time. It all has to play out. You can move on once this whole process finishes. You bet on it-- you should have known the time risk. Just sit tight, keep your panties on, and wait. Maybe don't bet on politics next time.
BananaNipples 5:11AM, Nov 18, 2020 UTC
Why are we even humouring fake news regarding this election? The election is over. Biden has won. There is no way mathematically for any other candidate to win and Trumps lawsuits have almost all been thrown out. At this point we might as well say Kanye has a shot to win the 2020 election. Let's just move on.
vegtru 8:20PM, Nov 17, 2020 UTC
@QWE No, this bet is about the NEXT PRESIDENT. It's extremely contested. It needs to play out properly. You shouldn't bet on things you cannot wait to play out. This election is going to the SCOTUS. We knew it might happen and it is. So we wait. 'President Gore' didn't find out until 37 days later. That was just one state. You wanna be dishonest and whine about it some more? That's on you. You cannot collect the bet on the the final outcome before the outcome is reached.
QWE 4:25PM, Nov 17, 2020 UTC
@vegtru you really need to stop commenting here if you're going to keep up this ********. You refuse to acknowledge the decision logic of this bet. This isn't about who gets the most Electors or certified votes. This is about a media consensus of the winner after the election.
prismspecs 9:14PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
oi vey you really buy all that horse ****?
vegtru 7:30PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
@prismspecs -- you are listening to the responsible adults. you are children trying to rush a bet before the bet is over. @p60091 this bet was a long term one. next time don't bet on the election, which is still many weeks from being close to over. @Hodgkinson it's a good thing you're not in charge, you have no problem with being dishonest. @999 well said. I saw a thread with the dead voter lookups-- it's pretty crazy. thanks for adding your voice-- these goons are all dishonest and stir crazy.
p60091 6:53PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
@999 **** logic, I much rather hodl my money in my own account. We've all got other bets to make.
999 6:00PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
Ironically, you guys should be happy being patient. It's not like the bitcoin is going to down in value. The longer you wait, the more your fiat-equivalent of bitcoin is worth. Unless you are desperate to take a profit, why aren't you just HODL'ing like the rest of bitcoiners? You're afraid to lose your bitcoin fairly, I suppose.
999 5:57PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
And so many dead people voted, so yeah recount. No argument.
999 5:56PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
If you don't understand why the recounts are happening, then you are really uninformed. People got multiple ballots, from name changes, like when a woman marries. Or from previous residences, like state changes, or county changes. The election departments end up mailing out more ballots then there are existing voters in that area, because of the lack of attention to detail. That's been happening all over the country.
999 5:51PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
Nevada had no intention of counting all the ballots, on election day. They literally were not expecting them to be counted until at least November 16, 2020. But with no actual specified deadline, I would be seriously surprised if they finished counting in Nevada by now. They let that bit of info slip out, on a phone call with the Secretary of State. I don't care if you voted for Biden or Trump. Operate in reality.
Simply_Unlucky 4:57PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
Not done counting yet Biden is at 290. Are we gonna have to wait till ****ing February? https://www.google.com/search?q=us+election+results&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS908US908&oq=us+e&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0i433j0i131i433i457j0i131i433j0i433j69i60l3.5926j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
prismspecs 12:21PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
Why hasn't this been resolved? Can we stop listening to children and be adults about this?
Hodgkinson 11:10AM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
Truth be told, I’m also a bit disappointed I can’t take my winnings from this bet and make another 10% from chumps like you betting that trump has a chance to overturn this through the courts.
Hodgkinson 11:06AM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
@vegtru Probably not a coincidence that trump supporters are such poor losers considering the example being given by your messiah. You are correct, I am impatient to get my significant winnings from this bet, but to clarify I’m not just stuck on the logic, TRUMP LOST THE ELECTION DUDE!!!! I’m hoping capitals work for getting through to you, it seems to work for trump. It is not heavily disputed anywhere in real world, in the US or internationally. It’s done.
vegtru 8:42AM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
You guys are just desperate. The bet is on the election. Nothing else. Hell, they're not even done counting. You guys have not disputed that. Moderators are involved for a reason. How many times must we repeat ourselves? You bicker about the logic, but you never touch on the actual bet. That's completely dishonest. This is a heavily disputed election and many other places are also choosing to wait because it's the only way to be certain. Sit back. Relax. Stop whining. It will end eventually.

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