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U.S. Presidential Election Winner 2020

U.S. Presidential Election Winner 2020
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What will be the result of the 2020 United States presidential election?

Decision Logic

The candidate that wins 270+ Electoral College votes at the 2020 presidential election will be settled as winner. Any subsequent events will have no effect on the settlement of this market.
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If no candidate wins 270+ Electoral College votes, we wait and the person chosen as President will be settled as winner.
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If Trump or Biden are replaced as candidates for any reason before the election this proposition will be settled as a Republicans vs Democrats proposition.

CLOSING IN2020-11-03 12:00:00

8:19PM, Oct 4, 2020 UTC

12:00PM, Nov 3, 2020 UTC

12:00PM, Nov 4, 2020 UTC

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Thundy 8:27PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
213 votes for each of the 366 counties to tip the election. Considering you can find 400+ malicious votes in one county (and that's just the tip of the iceberg) you can see where I'm getting at here. There's fraud on both sides and so long as this system is in place, there will be corruption of the highest degrees in the government and they will get away with it, precisely because of people like you that rejoice when your side wins.
Thundy 8:25PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
If you STILL refuse to believe me, I only ask you to compare counties that had 80-90% of the eligible voting population come out and vote. Look at the active prisoners and obituaries within the last 6 months and you'll see every other one has voted in this election via absentee ballot. YOU can confirm yourself RIGHT NOW that there's more then 17 cases and that's just in one county alone. How many is needed per county to tip the election?
Thundy 8:21PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
How likely do you figure it would be that major geopolitical opponents to Trump (Iran and China particularly) would commit mail in ballot fraud to get him out of office and Russia for Trump? I think it's very likely. I didn't vote for anyone this election cycle but I STRONGLY believe (and there's plenty of evidence for it) that shows there's mail in ballot fraud on both sides.
Thundy 8:20PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
Your sources claim authoritatively these things without backing them up with proper sources; also note that even the WhiteHous admits it isn't a full collection of all the people arrested for voter fraud. One hundred people sending in a few hundred mail in ballots would be enough to tip the election in favor of Biden. When there's trillions of dollars at stake and several major powers that have a vested interest in the election, many of these countries that kill their own political dissidents...
Thundy 8:18PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
Now, the White House gov is either lying (which they aren't, as you can find sources for all these incidents of voter fraud) OR these sources which claim only 17 votes are fraudulent are lying. Note: these are people ARRESTED and the amount of fraud just ONE of them committed is higher then your 17 figure. What we see are many of these people sending in dozens, even hundreds of mail in ballots that are being recorded and allowing certain officials to win office. This is a FACT.
Thundy 8:15PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf
Thundy 8:14PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
@bitqueen I'm not going to reply to most of your posts, because you lack critical thinking skills and use mainstream and flawed sources for most of your assertions that have a clear financial and political bent in them but I'll merely point out this, there is obviously a significantly higher amount of voter fraud and sources are malicious being obtuse about this to push an agenda. This isn't a conspiracy.
red-green 7:10PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
damnn who is the person that bet 3 btc on trump? Dayaammm!!
vegai 6:43PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
Yeah, you're right. This one's legit for not being called out, sorry. I was looking at 4 other bets revolving around the elections, but this wasn't the one I should've commented on.
Javan 6:12PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
@vegai You know what would really damage the credibility of this site? resolving the bet early contrary to the decision logic. If you're upset, read about the electoral process in america. I will admit that it does seem to be in bidens favor at this moment.. however nothing is final until the ACTUAL electoral votes are cast on dec 14th and approved january 6th. If you flip around the different channels you will see that some stations have jo biden at 390 electoral votes and some have him at 330.
bitqueen 6:10PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
My aforementioned tied up BTC is in other bets, not this one.
Pnmuk 5:58PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
We waiting for electoral college vote like the bet logic says buddy, can't you read? Media announcement doesn't count as electoral voting
bitqueen 5:55PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
I'm not opposed at all to investigations, recounts or audits. I just know they won't change the outcome. Benford's Law does not provide evidence of fraud; take some time to learn more about it since you're interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etx0k1nLn78 The primary emotion I feel is annoyance that I have BTC locked up in unresolved bets that I could otherwise use to take more easy money from Trumpists. Saying Biden bettors are nervous is projection at it's finest, a GOP hallmark.
vegai 5:24PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
Eh, how long are these election wagers gonna stay here? It's starting to damage the credibility of this site.
Pheenixm 4:19PM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
@bitqueen You're awfully nervous for someone who's already "won" ;) Benford's Analysis shows evidence of voter fraud. Why are you so opposed to investigations, recounts, and full audits if you have nothing to hide? Afraid we might be right?
Pnmuk 12:41AM, Nov 16, 2020 UTC
Tuned is absolutely correct
jeb_bush 11:59PM, Nov 15, 2020 UTC
@Tuned guy, we aren't panicking, we are bored. You are right the FEC and Supreme Court will handle this - we WILL know the real winner, it's plain as day it will be Biden if you dragged your head out of OAN or wherever you lot are getting this insanity from. If you really believe what you say: head over to the bet on overturning the election and go put your money where your mouth is. I bet on the other side of that so I'll be glad to take your money. Or if you believe what you think - take mine.
Tuned 11:54PM, Nov 15, 2020 UTC
@bitqueen Biden bettors are panicking. There is an abundance of evidence for voter fraud in the current swing states. FEC and the Supreme Court will handle this regardless of what you say and then we will know the real winner. In the meantime I will enjoy watching you Biden bettors sweat.
bitqueen 10:42PM, Nov 15, 2020 UTC
Whatever money you have bet, the theorectical payout is already enough. Resist the urge to 3x, 4x, or 5x money you can't afford on newer bets that pop up because there are plenty of rational people that see truth and will happily take your money. For support consider browsing https://www.reddit.com/r/QAnonCasualties/
praine 10:42PM, Nov 15, 2020 UTC
We get it. You can stop copying and pasting things.
bitqueen 10:41PM, Nov 15, 2020 UTC
I hope someone reading this will take time for self-reflection and consider the simple possibilty that more Americans voted for Biden over Trump. Doubling down just digs you deeper into a dark hole of paranoia. Your friends and family who aren't also in the cult will notice and may try to reason with you because they love you and want to help but you will just want to push them away and even break ties to avoid the painful reality that you've been lied to and manipulated by Trump for years.
bitqueen 10:41PM, Nov 15, 2020 UTC
A lot of Trumpists are going to lose 100's, 1000's and even 10000's of dollars on betting markets as they double and triple down their savings on Trump "winning" because the mere concept of their cult leader losing at anything is simply impossible in their minds. They will never concede, and will ignore all facts because to do otherwise is acknowledging they were duped, which is too painful to do after devoting years of their life to a cult and forming their entire identity around it.
bitqueen 10:41PM, Nov 15, 2020 UTC
Every day Trump or a Trump support continue to baselessy declare that a new instance of 100000 votes are fraudulent. By the next day these claims are always thoroughly debunked, and trumps lawyers admit defeat in whatever case they are desperately fighting for that day. But this news never reaches or are instantly ignored Trumpists who live in a conservative media bubble. They are addicts, and a new outrageous claim of election fraud with zero evidence is their next fix.
bitqueen 10:40PM, Nov 15, 2020 UTC
I know Trumpists will ignore all of this. They will declare "fake news!" and believe the words of their cult leader over any mountain of evidence. They are told every day by Trump, "Q", Alex Jones, OANN, Newsmax and until recently Fox News (who committed the ultimate sin of acknowledging reality and declaring Trump a loser) that their fantasy is correct, and the rest of the world is working together in a grand conspiracy against them.
bitqueen 10:40PM, Nov 15, 2020 UTC
In Wisconsin, a task force charged 20 individuals with election crimes. The majority charged were individuals with prior criminal convictions, who are often caught up by confusing laws regarding restoration of their voting rights. https://badgerherald.com/news/2011/02/01/doj-task-force-charg/#.U71R741dUq9
bitqueen 10:40PM, Nov 15, 2020 UTC
In Iowa, a multi-year investigation into fraud led to just 27 prosecutions out of 1.6 million ballots cast. In 2014 the state issued a report on the investigation citing only six prosecutions. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/8/2-year-voter-fraud-investigation-report-released/ http://publications.iowa.gov/16874/1/DCI%20Voter%20Fraud%20Report%205-8-14.pdf
bitqueen 10:39PM, Nov 15, 2020 UTC
Even this amended list contained many false positives, such as a WWII veteran born in Brooklyn. In the end, only 85 non-citizen registrants were identified and only one was convicted of fraud, out of a total of 12 million registered voters. http://www.politifact.com/florida/article/2013/sep/12/noncitizen-voter-purge-makes-comeback-florida/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/11/josef-sever-voted-illegally-non-citizen_n_2113807.html
bitqueen 10:39PM, Nov 15, 2020 UTC
In 2012, Florida Governor Rick Scott initiated an effort to remove non-citizen registrants from the state’s rolls. The state’s list of 182,000 alleged non-citizen registrants quickly dwindled to 198. http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2016/nov/18/blog-posting/no-3-million-undocumented-immigrants-did-not-vote-/ http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article2087729.html
bitqueen 10:39PM, Nov 15, 2020 UTC
In Florida, a criminal investigation into nine individuals who allegedly committed absentee ballot fraud led to all criminal charges being dismissed against all voters. http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/the-bogeyman-at-the-ballot-box-voter-fraud-in-florida-is-largely-a-myth/2276141
bitqueen 10:37PM, Nov 15, 2020 UTC
In Maine, an investigation into 200 college students revealed no evidence of fraud. Shortly thereafter, an Elections Commission appointed by a Republican secretary of state found “there is little or no history in Maine of voter impersonation or identification fraud.” http://www.brennancenter.org/blog/ballot-box-bullies http://www.maine.gov/sos/cec/elec/ElectionsCommissionReport.pdf

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